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Elliott Wave Predictions and the Market's Hidden Signals
Can you navigate the complexities of financial markets and emerge wiser? Unravel the mysteries with us as we dissect Elliott Wave International's latest insights into potential market downturns. We analyze the ominous signals from major indices like the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500, marked by significant downside breadth and volume. Discover the role of gaps as potential support levels during market declines and why the Nasdaq Composite's new highs aren't the full story. We also explore the uncertainty surrounding the Russell 2000 and offer a confident outlook for US Treasury long bond futures, all while understanding their connection to the US dollar index and the euro.
Crafting a well-rounded investment strategy amid market volatility is more crucial than ever. We guide you through the cautionary tales of the Dow Jones and S&P 500's downward trends while spotlighting a strategic opportunity in the rally of long-term US Treasuries. Curious about the potential of silver? Timing and patience could be your allies here. Delve into the implications of the unconfirmed high in the Nasdaq 100 and its wider impact. This episode empowers you with insights and practical advice to become an informed investor, ensuring you're ready to face any market twist with confidence.
Hey everyone and welcome to another deep dive. Today we're going to try to figure out where the market might be headed next.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1:You shared with us the short-term update from Elliott Wave International dated December 9th of this year, so we're going to use that as our main source today. Now, I know that Elliott Wave International uses a very specific way of analyzing markets, but don't worry.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:We're not going to get lost in all those details today. We really want to just look at what their analysis is saying about the market right now? The hackley, and you know I think you've got just the right person here to help us do that happy to help. I'm ready to dive in okay, so you wanted to understand potential market moves, right, and this report kind of gets right to the point it. It looks like we might be in for a bit of a market rollercoaster. What?
Speaker 1:really jumps out to me is that several major indices like kind of gets right to the point. It looks like we might be in for a bit of a market roller coaster. What really jumps out to me is that several major indices like the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the Dow Jones Transportation Average and even the S&P 500, they all seem to be pointing downwards.
Speaker 2:What are your initial thoughts on that? Well, the interesting thing is that the report really focuses on something called downside breadth and volume. So it's not just that a few stocks are dropping. It's about how widespread the decline is across the market.
Speaker 1:I see.
Speaker 2:You can think of it this way Imagine a football game where one team is losing badly.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's not just their star quarterback having a bad day, right, it's the whole team is making mistakes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the more players fumble, the more the crowd starts to boo. That's kind of like the volume increasing. So if more and more stocks are dropping and the volume of trading increases on those drops, well that's a pretty strong signal that the bears are in control. And, according to the report, if that downside breadth and volume keeps getting stronger, well the decline might have a lot further to go, Danielle.
Speaker 1:Pletka. Okay, so we're really watching for signs of weakness across the board. The report goes on to talk specifically about the Dow Jones Industrial Average and how it dropped from a high of 45,073.60 on December 4th. They also mentioned these gaps at 44,296.50 years from November 22nd and an even bigger one at 42,221.80 from November 5th. Can you explain what the significance of these bops are?
Speaker 2:Well, you can almost think of those gaps like missing steps on a staircase. Okay, imagine you're walking down expecting a step and suddenly there's nothing there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You might stumble, hesitate or even turn around.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:In a similar way, the market might pause or even bounce a bit at those gap levels because there's less support there. They're like potential floors where buyers might step in or sellers might take a breather.
Speaker 1:So it's not necessarily a straight shot down, but those gaps are key levels to watch. If the Dow keeps dropping Exactly Now, what about the S&P 500? It hit an intraday high of 6,099.97 on December 6th, but it seems to be following the Dow's lead and heading downwards. The report actually uses the word impulsive to describe this decline. Okay, Now, I have to admit that sounds a little dramatic to me it does what does that actually mean in this context?
Speaker 2:Well, it's not as dramatic as it sounds.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Impulsive in market terms basically means a strong and sudden move.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Like slamming on the brakes in a car.
Speaker 1:Got it.
Speaker 2:It's not a gradual slowdown, it's a forceful drop, and this is where those downside breadth and volume that we were talking about become really important An impulsive decline with strong breadth and volume.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Well, that suggests that this move could have legs, meaning it could continue for a while. Yeah, we need to watch those other indicators to see if they're confirming this impulsive move.
Speaker 1:So we're looking for that combination of factors to really paint a clearer picture for us. But here's where things get a little interesting. Okay, while the Dow and the S&P 500 are showing these signs of weakness, the Nasdaq composite hit a new high of 19,872.70 on December 9th. So is it defying the trend or is there more to the story?
Speaker 2:It's not necessarily defying the trend just yet. Okay, but there is a bit of a disconnect because this new high in the Nasdaq Q composite wasn't confirmed by the Nasdaq Q100. It's like one part of the market is trying to rally, but the other part isn't quite convinced.
Speaker 1:I see.
Speaker 2:This could be a sign of weakness and the report mentions a potential gap in the Nasdaq-100 at 21,229.32, which was the close on December 3rd. That gap might act as a support level if the Nasdaq-100 starts to move lower.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the Nasdaq-100 is giving us some mixed signals. We need to watch it closely to see if it kind of falls in line with those other indices or not. Now I know that you have a particular interest in the Russell 2000.
Speaker 2:I do.
Speaker 1:What does the report say about that?
Speaker 2:Well, the Russell 2000 is a bit of a wild card right now. Okay, the report says that its short-term pattern is unclear. It's like it's sitting on the fence waiting to see what happens before it makes a move.
Speaker 1:So we'll add that to our watch list too. What about the US Treasury long bond futures? The report seems pretty confident that they'll keep rallying.
Speaker 2:They do.
Speaker 1:What's their reasoning behind that prediction?
Speaker 2:Well, they point to a double zigzag pattern in both the US dollar index and the euro.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:Now I know that sounds really technical.
Speaker 1:Wow, it does.
Speaker 2:But basically it suggests that the dollar might be hitting lower while the euro could be going higher. So it's kind of like a seesaw as one goes up, the other goes down, and when the dollar weakens, bonds tend to do well.
Speaker 1:I see. So the currencies are giving us some clues about the bond market. This is where it gets really interesting. This is where it gets really interesting it is, and I know that you're also really interested in precious metals, so let's dive into what the report has to say about those.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Let's start with gold. It looks like it's currently in a corrective phase.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:So that just means it's taking a break after a pretty big move.
Speaker 1:Got it.
Speaker 2:The report suggests a potential target range of $2,300 to $2,311.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:As for silver, well, it recently rallied to $32.35, but then pulled back just a bit.
Speaker 1:So some interesting movements there. What are the possible scenarios for silver over the next few days?
Speaker 2:The report outlines a couple of different possibilities. If today's high in silver was the top of the recent rally, then we could see a drop down to the $27.50 to $27.40 range or even lower to $25.89 to $26.43. But if the rally still has a little bit of strength left, then the next target to watch for would be the $32.80 to $32.96 range. I'll just see which way it breaks.
Speaker 1:So this is giving us a lot to consider. We've got potential downward movement for the Dow Jones and S&P 500, uncertainty in the Nasdaq Q and really interesting developments in these other markets like bonds, the dollar, the euro, gold and silver. It really highlights how interconnected everything is.
Speaker 2:It does. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1:It really is, and I think what's most interesting is how different markets seem to be telling different stories. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Interesting is how different markets seem to be telling different stories yeah. It'll be interesting to see how these narratives unfold in the coming week.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 1:So, before we get into what all this means for you specifically, let's take a moment to think about what we've learned so far. What are some initial takeaways or observations that stand out to you?
Speaker 2:Well, I think the biggest takeaway for me is the importance of watching those breadth and volume indicators.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Especially in the context of these potential downward trends. It's not enough to just see a few stocks dropping. We really need to see widespread participation to confirm that the bears are truly in control. And even though the Nasdaq Q seems to be doing its own thing right now, that unconfirmed high raises some red flags, we really need to watch for more clues to see if it's going to follow the broader market or not.
Speaker 1:Right. So it's not just about looking at these individual stocks or indices on their own. It's about understanding the broader context and watching for those confirming signals.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:I'm so curious to see how this plays out over the next few weeks and I bet you are too dear listener. So when we come back we'll explore what all of this might mean for you and your investment strategy. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it really is like piecing together a puzzle, isn't it? It is, each market kind of tells us a different part of the story, and we're trying to figure out what the bigger picture looks like.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and that's where things get really interesting for you, our listener. What does all of this mean for you specifically? Well, if you're invested in the stock market especially in something like the Dow Jones or the S&P 500, you know it might be time to proceed with a little bit of caution. These potential downward trends are something to keep a close eye on, for sure.
Speaker 2:Definitely. And you know it's important to remember that this report is just one perspective. Right, it's one piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's based on this specific method of analysis, so it's always important to do your own research, maybe even look at other methods and definitely talk to a financial professional before making any big investment decisions.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. We're giving you information, not instructions here, but knowledge is power, marc.
Speaker 2:Thiessen, Exactly.
Speaker 1:Danielle Pletka, and knowing about these potential trends can be a really good starting point for your own research Now, on the other hand, if you're interested in bonds or precious metals, this could be a good time to pay attention. The report suggests that bonds, particularly long-term US treasuries, are likely to continue rallying. Does that line up with your understanding of where things are in the economy right now?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does Remember how we were talking about the dollar possibly weakening.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that usually creates a pretty favorable environment for bonds.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And if you look at those technical patterns we discussed, there's a good chance that this rally has further to go.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Let's circle back to those precious metals for a moment, specifically silver, since that's an area that we're particularly interested in. Yes, Remember we talked about those potential scenarios. What if silver does drop to those lower target ranges? Could?
Speaker 2:that be a buying opportunity for someone who's bullish on precious metals? Oh, it certainly could be, but you have to remember timing. Is everything in the market Right? It's really crucial to wait for those confirmation signals before jumping into any trade. Yeah, you don't want to catch a falling knife.
Speaker 1:Good advice. Patience is definitely key, especially when you're dealing with a volatile market like precious metals. I want to go back to the Nasdaq for a minute, though that unconfirmed high is a little bit of a head scratcher, isn't it? That unconfirmed high is a little bit of a head scratcher, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It is. It raises some questions. What if the NASDAQ 100 starts to fall and it fills that gap we talked about?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, it could be a sign that even the tech sector, which has been relatively strong, is starting to lose some steam.
Speaker 1:Okay. And that could have broader implications for the market as a whole. Right, because even though different markets might tell different stories, like you said, they're all kind of part of the same ecosystem.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:What happens in one area can definitely have an impact on the others. What do you think is the most important takeaway for our listener from all of this information?
Speaker 2:You know, I think the most important thing is to stay informed, be aware of these different forces that are at play in the market and don't rely on just one source of information or one method of analysis. You've taken a great step by looking at this Elliott Wave International report, but don't stop there. Look at other analyses, read different perspectives, consider multiple factors before you make any decisions.
Speaker 1:I couldn't agree more, and that's really what the show is all about. We want to help you become a more informed and savvy investor, no matter what your current level of expertise is.
Speaker 2:Right. It's about empowering you to make those good decisions for your financial future, and part of that is understanding that there's no one size fits all approach.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Your investment strategy should be as unique as you are.
Speaker 1:I love that Well said. Now, before we wrap things up, let's leave our listener with a little something to think about. Based on everything we've discussed today, what do you think is the most likely scenario for the market over these next few weeks? Do you think the Dow and the S&P 500 will continue to trend downwards or will they find some support and bounce back? Will the Nasdaq Q break out to new highs or will it give in to that bearish pressure? And what about those other markets we talked about Bonds, currencies and precious metals? What opportunities or potential risks are you seeing there?
Speaker 2:Those are great questions and I wish I had a crystal ball. But there's no easy answer. The market is complex and dynamic and it's impossible to predict the future with 100% certainty.
Speaker 1:But that's what makes it so fascinating, right? It is. That element of uncertainty keeps us on our toes and makes this whole journey so intriguing?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's a constant learning process and there's always something new to discover.
Speaker 1:That's the perfect segue into the final part of our deep dive. We're going to wrap things up with some additional resources and insights that you, our listener, can use to continue your own exploration of all of these different market trends. Don't go away, we'll be right back welcome back everyone.
Speaker 2:We've covered a lot of ground today, haven't we? We have exploring all these potential market trends and you know what they might mean for you and your investments. But before we wrap things up, I want to emphasize something super important Market analysis, no matter how insightful it is, is just one piece of the puzzle. Right, it's so important for you to do your own research, consider different perspectives and talk to those financial professionals before you make any decisions.
Speaker 1:I couldn't agree more. We've given you some really powerful tools today to understand what's happening in the markets, but ultimately you are the navigator.
Speaker 2:That's your financial goals, your risk tolerance, your overall investment strategy. Those are your guiding principles.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and remember, you know, the market is like a river it's constantly changing and evolving.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What might be true today might not be true tomorrow. Right, so stay curious, stay informed and never stop learning.
Speaker 2:And don't worry if you're feeling a little overwhelmed by all this information. That's normal.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:The financial world is complex it is. That's why it's so important to find reliable sources of information and people you can talk to and learn from. Build that network of support.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Surround yourself with people who can help you make sense of it all. And remember investing is a journey, not a destination. There will be ups and downs along the way. The key is to stay focused on those long-term goals and make those informed decisions that align with your plan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that analogy of a journey. And speaking of navigating, we've talked a lot about technical analysis and you know all these different market trends, but there's another element that's really important to consider Market psychology.
Speaker 1:Okay, tell me more.
Speaker 2:Market psychology plays a huge role in how prices actually move Right. It's all about understanding that collective mood of the market. The fear, the greed, the hope, the uncertainty, you know, all those emotions can really influence things.
Speaker 1:So it's not just about the numbers, it's about understanding the emotions behind the numbers. That's a really valuable insight.
Speaker 2:Exactly so, as you continue on this investment journey, remember to keep an eye on both those technicals and the sentiment. Knowledge is power.
Speaker 1:It really is Well. I want to thank you so much for sharing all of your expertise with us today. It's been a fascinating deep dive into the world of market trends.
Speaker 2:It has been. The pleasure was all mine. I always enjoy these conversations and I hope our listeners found it helpful.
Speaker 1:And to you, dear listener, thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive. We hope this has given you some valuable insights and a fresh perspective on the market. Remember do your own research, stay curious and, most importantly, invest wisely. Until next time, happy investing everyone.